Never Wait for the Close: the gifting system that makes you impossible to forget
With – Dave Savage, Founder, Mortgage Coach
For sixty-one episodes Dino asked the questions. This time Dave Savage put him in the hot seat and pulled out the system he had never fully explained on the show — thirteen to sixteen gifts per client, under four hundred dollars total, sent before, during and after the transaction.
The first gift goes out the day of pre-approval, not closing. As Dino puts it: he already knows he’s going to do a good job, so why wait until the end to prove it? Inside are the gift that beat a five-hundred-dollar gift card, the best closing gift he’s seen in twenty-nine years, and what he sends the moment an offer gets rejected.
Key Discussion Points
- A loan is not just a loan. Mortgages Under Management — why a client isn’t a transaction that ends at funding, and what changes when you stop treating it like one.
- Never wait for the close. The first gift goes out at pre-approval. Dino’s argument: he already knows he’ll do a good job, so proving it at the end is proving it too late.
- Never give a gift card. A five-hundred-dollar Home Depot card lost to a twenty-dollar gift. What each one actually communicates.
- The best closing gift he’s seen in twenty-nine years. A referral partner heard one sentence about a couple’s dream and turned it into the moment they opened their garage.
- The Sunshine Box. A rejected offer is the most poachable moment in your pipeline, and most advisors go quiet exactly then.
- Your transcripts are gold. Why Dino records everything, and the AI move most advisors haven’t made yet.
- The Code. Seven written principles, read aloud — starting with plant trees, don’t pick fruit.
🎥 Episode Timestamps
- 00:00 Season two opens with a role reversal — Dave takes the mic
- 01:05 Who Dino is: father of four, family first
- 02:00 Why Ethos became the obsession — building advisors, not just loans
- 03:55 A shout-out to every mortgage guy’s spouse
- 05:05 Mortgages Under Management: a loan is not just a loan
- 06:00 Always Present — the gifting program that moved the needle most
- 07:45 How Dave talked him into Mortgage Coach
- 08:45 The Chase jumbo client and the presentation that won her
- 11:20 Stop answering your own scheduling emails
- 13:00 The initial consultation: twenty minutes that set up thirty years
- 14:30 Planting the seed of the investment property
- 18:05 Why he loves his clients — and why that’s the whole why
- 18:40 Stepping back down to first-time buyers, on purpose
- 19:15 Why first-time buyers arrive already stressed
- 20:05 Realtors who inject fear into the transaction
- 20:30 Permission to celebrate
- 21:15 The first gift goes out at pre-approval, not closing
- 22:55 The $500 Home Depot gift card that landed with a thud
- 24:05 Jay O’Brien, Client Giant, and the best gift he’s ever seen
- 25:00 “Open your garage first” — the his-and-hers beach cruisers
- 27:10 The Sunshine Box, for when the offer gets rejected
- 28:05 Three bottles of champagne, three specific moments
- 29:20 The after campaign: funding to the one-year anniversary
- 30:00 Thirteen to sixteen gifts, all in under $400
- 31:05 Ethos today: sixty advisors down to fifty-two, on purpose
- 31:45 What technology should buy back — and what it shouldn’t
- 35:20 Record everything: your transcripts are gold
- 39:15 Faith first, family always — the ethos, read word for word
- 41:50 Gratitude, and why most people forget they’re blessed
- 47:40 Good to Great, and why good is the enemy of great
- 50:50 The Code: plant trees, don’t pick fruit
- 52:10 Perspective — the word that changes everything
- 55:40 The Compound Effect, and slow-cooking a business
- 58:15 The Million Dollar Drop: Columbus, Ohio, no contacts, no money
- 59:45 Open houses with a strategy instead of just showing up
- 1:00:50 Tony Robbins: stop being a taker, start being a giver
- 1:03:00 Eighty-twenty, then webinars
Books & Resources Mentioned
- Good to Great — Jim Collins. Dino’s primary answer. “There’s a lot of good churches. There’s just not very many great ones.”
- Proverbs. “Each and every one of those is a motivational book all on its own.”
- Tony Robbins — cited in the Million Dollar Drop, on the shift from taker to giver.
- First Home IQ — Dino is an ambassador; financial literacy for first-time buyers.
Guest bio
Dave Savage founded Mortgage Coach and has spent three decades building the tools advisors use to turn numbers into decisions. He has interviewed hundreds of top producers across the industry — and this time he turned the questions on Dino.