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Never Wait for the Close: the gifting system that makes you impossible to forget

With – Dave Savage, Founder, Mortgage Coach

For sixty-one episodes Dino asked the questions. This time Dave Savage put him in the hot seat and pulled out the system he had never fully explained on the show — thirteen to sixteen gifts per client, under four hundred dollars total, sent before, during and after the transaction.

The first gift goes out the day of pre-approval, not closing. As Dino puts it: he already knows he’s going to do a good job, so why wait until the end to prove it? Inside are the gift that beat a five-hundred-dollar gift card, the best closing gift he’s seen in twenty-nine years, and what he sends the moment an offer gets rejected.

Key Discussion Points

  • A loan is not just a loan. Mortgages Under Management — why a client isn’t a transaction that ends at funding, and what changes when you stop treating it like one.
  • Never wait for the close. The first gift goes out at pre-approval. Dino’s argument: he already knows he’ll do a good job, so proving it at the end is proving it too late.
  • Never give a gift card. A five-hundred-dollar Home Depot card lost to a twenty-dollar gift. What each one actually communicates.
  • The best closing gift he’s seen in twenty-nine years. A referral partner heard one sentence about a couple’s dream and turned it into the moment they opened their garage.
  • The Sunshine Box. A rejected offer is the most poachable moment in your pipeline, and most advisors go quiet exactly then.
  • Your transcripts are gold. Why Dino records everything, and the AI move most advisors haven’t made yet.
  • The Code. Seven written principles, read aloud — starting with plant trees, don’t pick fruit.

🎥 Episode Timestamps

  • 00:00 – The role reversal — Dave takes the mic
  • 01:30 – Who Dino is: four kids, faith, family first
  • 05:00 – Mortgages Under Management — a loan is not just a loan
  • 07:30 – The Mortgage Coach story, and becoming a higher-level advisor
  • 11:30 – Why your attorney doesn’t answer scheduling emails — and why you shouldn’t either
  • 13:00 – The initial consultation: twenty minutes that set up thirty years
  • 18:00 – Why first-time buyers arrive already stressed
  • 19:30 – Giving clients permission to celebrate
  • 20:30 – The first gift goes out at pre-approval, not closing
  • 23:10 – The $500 gift card that lost to a $20 gift
  • 24:20 – The best closing gift he’s ever seen: open your garage first
  • 26:20 – The Sunshine Box — when the offer gets rejected
  • 28:00 – Three bottles of champagne, three moments
  • 29:30 – The after campaign: thirty days to one year
  • 31:00 – Ethos today — and why going from sixty advisors to fifty-two was good
  • 35:00 – Record everything — your transcripts are gold
  • 39:05 – Faith first, family always: the ethos, word for word
  • 47:30 – Good to Great, and why good is the enemy of great
  • 50:30 – The Code: plant trees, don’t pick fruit
  • 52:30 – Perspective — the word that changes everything
  • 56:00 – The Compound Effect, and slow-cooking a business
  • 58:50 – The Million Dollar Drop: Columbus, Ohio, no contacts, no money

Books & Resources Mentioned

  • Good to Great — Jim Collins. Dino’s primary answer. “There’s a lot of good churches. There’s just not very many great ones.”

     

  • The Compound Effect. He got his fourteen-year-old to read it.

  • Proverbs. “Each and every one of those is a motivational book all on its own.”
  • Tony Robbins — cited in the Million Dollar Drop, on the shift from taker to giver.
  • First Home IQ — Dino is an ambassador; financial literacy for first-time buyers.

Guest bio

Dave Savage founded Mortgage Coach and has spent three decades building the tools advisors use to turn numbers into decisions. He has interviewed hundreds of top producers across the industry — and this time he turned the questions on Dino.

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