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How AI, Branding & Relentless Execution Built One of Mortgage's Fastest-Growing Teams

With – Abdel Khawatmi

Abdel Khawatmi runs a New Jersey region doing a little over $200 million a year — and when Dino asks what he’s best in class at, he doesn’t say branding or AI or content. He says execution.

This is Abdel’s second time on the show. In the first he laid out the brand. In this one he opens the engine: the six numbers he tracks weekly, why he builds a separate brand for every originator he hires, how he uses AI as an accountability coach rather than a content machine, and why he thinks the post-2020 consumer has made it impossible to fake competence.

Along the way: keeping twelve months of content queued so posting never depends on the day you’re having, treating your brand the way you’d treat a loan file, and a foundation started in his father’s memory that now teaches financial literacy in local high schools.

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Based on a conversation with Abdel Khawatmi, Branch Manager at PRMG, on The Way with Dino Katsiametis.

Views expressed are the individual’s own and do not represent their employer.

In this episode

– Why “the Gorilla” started as a gag gift and became a brand

– The Six C’s — content, clients, conversations, credit, contracts, closings

– Why he’s stingy with a pre-approval, and what that buys him with agents

– Building an individual brand for every originator on the team

– The three avatars: client, referral partner, loan officer

– AI as accountability coach — calendar first, content second

– Monday/Wednesday/Friday post-contract updates

– Keeping a twelve-month content queue

– The Got Mortgage Cares Foundation and financial literacy in schools

Books & resources

– Start With Why — Simon Sinek (his answer)

– Atomic Habits — James Clear (his previous answer)

– Who: The A Method for Hiring — Geoff Smart and Randy Street

His ethos: authenticity.

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